Moving on to perhaps one of the most important leadership principles for hiring managers, and especially if you're looking to enter Amazon as manager yourself, is that around Earn Trust. So Earn Trust is super core to the Amazon philosophy, because it really represents, if I'm hiring you, what is the level of trust or what is your level of frankly, honesty, that you have as an individual, as a candidate coming into the organization? So I'll ask her a very generic question that oftentimes you might hear around this LP, which is, what do you think is your greatest weakness? That's an excellent question. My greatest weakness I will have to say is, I potentially could over analyze something. How has that hampered your career? How has that hampered my career? Since I've worked on this, so earlier in my career, I might have spent too many cycles, spending doing an analysis or trying to fall up into making sure that everything was 100 percent perfect before, instead of just acting incredibly fast to basically move things along a process, whether it's a roadmap, or production, certain things like that. So here as a candidate, she actually gave me a data point to pivot a conversation. For example, she mentioned that she is almost like a perfectionist. Always looking for the very best thing, which is great, because that hits upon our insist on high-standards, leadership principle, but the way I asked her the follow up question, which is, how has that maybe even hurt your career, and she brought on the example of maybe taking too many cycles to iterate before releasing something. That actually speaks to another leadership principle which is bias for action, the ability to deliver something on time or even before schedule for customers. So given that that has potentially increased your timeline, what are some ways that you've developed to counteract that or to maybe [inaudible] correct? Obviously, after many years of working in the industry, one of the key things for me is prioritization, making sure that whatever feature, whatever product that I'm releasing, I've aligned on what are the key features that are needed for your MVP, and they get that alignment early on. So I understand that from engineering, from marketing perspective, and all the related stakeholders, and what I do is basically do that stack rank, understand where that cutoff line is, and set the dates accordingly. In some cases, I do have to maybe talk with finance, talk with the executive saying, "Hey, we might have a release this shaped, but will hit all these MVP priorities that we discussed," and then that conversation turns into, "Well, we really need a release." Then we go back to the drawing board, re-prioritize, and say, "Okay, how can we shrink the original MVP at least a little smaller?" Yeah. That's a really good response that Jenny just provided, because the ability to understand all the requirements. Because frankly, if we were to gather all the requirements, a product would never shape. So a job of a good product manager is to decide when it's enough for the MVP which meets the majority or the most critical of the customer's requirements set, and what goes into V_2, V_3, so on so forth. What she brought there was really interesting that I'm actually going to dive a little bit deeper in, which is understanding from the MVP, how do we consolidate some of the items? That actually goes to another leadership principle, which is invent and simplify. So how does she understand or go through all of the requirements and be able to potentially come up with some innovative ways to either combine some of those requirements to enable her team to deliver on time? Can you give me an example of that? Yeah. Our perfect example is generally when we launched new gains, certain core systems that you need to have in place. You have a store mechanic, you have sale mechanics, advent mechanics, as well as your core game play of playing levels, playing whatever, when you launched the game. Generally, an ideal situation you have the entire world, all the time in the world, you can launch with all of these things. However, what you have to do is saying, okay, what is absolutely necessary? What is really going to make or break that customer experience of playing that game, and what is going to help them come back to the game? So from there, you can start cutting out things like a sale system, like an event system, because they're not core to the core game play, that a user would have to interact with. Understood. Thank you, Jenny. That was a really good example. So oftentimes when you hit around the 45-minute mark of an hour-long interview, typically, the interviewer will then say, "Hey, do you have any questions for me?" So Jenny, in your exam or in your experience as an interviewer candidate, what are some good questions to ask the interviewer? Yeah, depending on the level of the person that you're interviewing with, if they're more on the peer level, or if you're more of a senior level, I would generally tailor my question to that. For more senior level folks, I generally ask about strategy. Where do they want to take the team? How do they envision the team growing, or the department growing, and more about strategy, whereas more of the peer level, I would focus more on talk about team dynamics, talk about culture, talk about potentially how you would fit into that role and where they see all of them, all possibilities. What does the best question that someone has ever asked you during an interview? Generally, one of the questions that I get the most is something around what makes you stay at a company, that always makes me think a little. Awesome. Cool. Well, thanks so much everybody for tuning in, and thank you, Jenny. So if you'd like to follow Jenny on social media, here are her links. Do you want to share a few details about what is Jam City, and also what you do here at AWIP? Yeah, sure. So for those of you that don't already know, I am the Director of Membership at AWIP , so I highly encourage you guys to check out our membership. You can find the link here, on our website. Then in terms of Jam City, what my company does is where one of the top mobile game publishers in the plethora of companies out there. We're known for Cookie Jam, Family Guy, as well as the most recent Harry Potter game. I specifically work on Cookie Jam. So if you guys want to download it, check it out, give me any feedback, all ears. That's awesome. Thank you.
